Network admin gets jail time — for doing his job?

A former network admin is facing up to five years in prison. His crime? According to him, it was refusing to hand over passwords to folks who weren’t authorized to use them.

Terry Childs worked as a network administrator for the city of San Francisco. In 2008, he blocked access to critical parts of the city’s the network and refused to turn over the passwords to city officials. He was arrested, and revealed the passwords only after spending several days in jail.

In the meantime, employees were unable to access police records, payroll data and other information.

After the incident, it was discovered that Childs had several criminal convictions before San Fransisco hired him — including counts of robbery and theft. According to the city, Childs was disgruntled because he found out his job was in jeopardy and was trying to make himself indispensable to the city’s IT department.

But the admin painted a different picture of the situation: He was simply doing his job by protecting the network.

He claimed he was first asked for the passwords in a meeting that included a police representative, a Human Resources staffer and some unseen engineers on a telephone conference call. He refused, on the grounds that some of the folks present weren’t authorized to access the network, according to an InfoWorld interview.

In addition, he was afraid the passwords might be shared with other members of management or outside contractors.

In other words, Childs claimed he was simply following the best practices for a network administrator.

However, a jury didn’t see it that way. On April 28, Childs was found guilty of a felony charge of denying access to a computer system, the San Fransisco Chronicle reports. He faces a maximum prison of five years, though he’s expected to spend, at most, a few months in jail before parole. Sentencing is scheduled for June.

What’s your take on the story? Was Childs a disgruntled admin who held his employer hostage, or was he simply doing his civic duty in refusing to broadcast passcodes that would give a group of people access to the network he maintained?

Leave your thoughts in the comments section below.

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  • CW

    He’s just doing his job and should be applauded for making sure records were secure. If I were a customer on this guy’s network, I would expect my password to be protected, especially if there were a privacy statement stating such. I don’t even know why this is an issue, seems like common knowledge.

  • Mike

    He is clearly an idiot. He could have easily just said “This is too wide of distribution on a conference call”, so I will give the passwords to so-and-so after the conference. The jury was 100% correct.

  • P.F. McCracken

    Standard Operation Procedure (SOP) for DOD, FBI and other secure companies is:
    1) Division of Roles… different role=different level of access.
    2) Seperation of duties
    I have 21 years in the industry both private and federal government. You simply do not allow un-supervised access to outside people into your network or area of work. Most places would fire you for allowing non-authorized access. Even management should not get into technical admin areas, usually because they Do Not Know what they are doing!

    Were there any technical or network people in the jury?? Or were they all business people?
    And finally, they should have gotten management to request supervised access or a court order, so Mr. Childs would then NOT be held accountable for the actions of others.

  • Harvey Wachtel

    Sounds like there are disputes about questions of fact here, which is what juries are supposed to decide (although admittedly they are sometimes notoriously bad at it). Unless we know what authority Terry’s supervisors had over the accounts that the passwords were protecting, we can’t make a judgment.

    “… he was afraid the passwords might be shared with other members of management or outside contractors” seems like a weak point of defense. What he thinks others might do is hardly grounds to refuse. If he gets evidence of actual misconduct, he can go to higher authorities or the media. And, of course, he can resign.

  • http://www.idaholabs.com Doug

    Seems the management could have easily requested the passwords be given in a private meeting after.
    Egg on their face for knee-jerk reaction, which likely contributed to the “disgruntled” spirit of Mr. Childs.

  • C Long

    It seems to me that he could have given the ids and passwords to his immediate supervisor. This would have been sufficient and would not have violated any security protocols. I’m sure the HR folks would have agreed to this solution.

  • Richard Eisenman

    “He refused, on the grounds that some of the folks present weren’t authorized to access the network…” Which implies that some of them were. Had he handed over the password(s) privately to those that were, there would have been no problem, or is he the only admin in the entire S.F. IT department ‘authorized’. Sorry, try again…

  • Donnie

    Give up the passwords and let management put them on Post-It notes, spreadsheets, send them via email and post them on their Facebook status… Do whatever they tell you to do, stop thinking and follow. Bob Dobb teaches, “Act like a dumbass and people will treat you like an equal.” Words of wisdom for true happiness.
    And if a breach occurs, it’s not your fault anyway.
    He must have had a god complex, because no one should really care that much.

  • Forsaken Knight

    Based on my experience as a Network Administrator, as well as the information in the article, I would have to say he was following a strict security practice which is recommended in multiple “Best Practice” documents. I personally would not give up critical information regarding my network to anyone not directly involved within the IT Department or a proper formal request be made by the President of the company. Persons involved in IT are responsible for data integrity, security, and most of all confidentiality. However this shows in the great nation of the United States, the justice system is designed to favor the goverments view. If a Network Administrator were to hand out passwords to anyone that asked for access for fear of a five year prison sentence I’m sure the U.S. judicial system would find a way to in prison that person for the maximum term allowed. With that said if you are looking for employment as a Network Administrator you may want to reconsider looking for work outside the United States as you may be thrown in prison for performing your duties to the best of your abilities.

  • matthew Tyler

    I would need more information to be able to say if he was warrented in his actions but I would never give out network passwords to a group of people that did not have access. I would have given them to one person in the group (probably my direct superior) and made them sign a form saying they were responsible for the repercussions of giving passwords out to unauthorized users and then that one person could have done whatever they wanted. It is never a good idea to give out network passwords to just anybody under any circumstances but if you are forced to you can CYA. There are ways you can deal with this sort of situation and i get the feeling this guy did not deal with this correctly.

  • Anita

    I think it was a little of both. But security should be a number one priority for any network. He should have created user names and passwords for the persons requesting access and that way the amount and kind of access could be controlled and monitored.

  • Adrain Parker

    I believe he should have released the information to his HR Director. What happens after that is not his issue. You have to remember you are an employee of a corporation, and your actions are overseen by someone at the organization. Shouldn’t have to go to jail over this, as there should have been someone else in the Network Admin Group with similar rights to provide the passwords. This is insane, that you would intrust only one individual with said rights? What happens if he/she goes on vacation?

  • Julius Nadas

    Unfortunately he is not an independent professional whose professional judgement trumps sanity. A clergyman, doctor or a lawyer can claim a higher authority – which is the basis for his qualifications for his position. The rest of us are just hired hands who need to learn that we can not use our professional opinions to excuse us from doing what our supervisor directs us to do. Our union tells us that we need to have written documentation that we were directed to do something, no matter how stupid it may be ( unless it is illegal or clearly a threat to someone’s life or health) and comply with the directive.

  • Ted M

    The article misses the point.

    The crime was blocking access to the network. The refusal to reveal the passwords made it worse, but the crime had already been committed by that point. And, if the passwords were compromized by being revealed to unauthorized personnel, they could quickly be changed. So Child’s offered defense was quite weak, and I think the jury did the right thing.

  • Matt Sparks

    Get real – if managment asked him for the passwords and he refused to hand them over, he was in violation of “best practices” I suspect “Best practices” also states don’t hire a felon to protect your network…

  • Stephen C. Spellman

    Nothing. Absolutely nothing that occurs in San Francisco surprises me. If there is anywhere in this country where good has been made evil and evil made good it can be found in San Francisco. Were any of his criminal convictions for being in the country illegally or for enjoying sexually deviant intercourse? Oh I’m sorry. Those two points qualify you as a hero in San Fran.

  • Kathy

    We clearly do not have the whole story so it is inappropriate for us to comment on it.

  • http://www.southeastinc.com Pete Davis

    I thought I read when this story originally broke, that he had tried to blackmail the city. That was why they prosecuted him. It sounds like there might be more to the story. In any case, it is not his network and his boss has the right to ask for this info. If there is a policy in place for documenting the passwords and a formal procedure to access them, then he doesn’t have a case.

  • Albert

    The larger issue, and lesson, is to *never* let a single employee be the sole keeper of critical security tokens. And a good “disaster” plan needs to include methods to regain access to infrastructure if such an employee is injured, fired, or becomes disgruntled.

    In any event, Childs was wrong to refuse to disclose passwords to network infrastructure when instructed to do so by his supervisor. If his concern was network security, he should have disclosed them to his supervisor along with a written statement about his concerns. Criminality would depend upon state and local laws, compounded by the fact that he was a government employee.

    I’ve also always wondered why, with physical access to the devices, the city was unable to regain access. Almost all network devices have methods to regain access *if* you have physical access. So do most computer security mechanisms…

  • Ravi Sandhu

    I feel he was correct in not giving passwords to unathorized users but where he went wrong was to block access to vital applications without approval. Where were his superiors during this meeting?

  • jeremy

    We don’t have enough information to know if what he did is wrong/illegal. Did they have a written policy that stated the passwords should not be (or only be) shared with certain people? If he was following policies in place, I would say he should not have been found guilty. If he was doing it as a “smart” IT guy doing the “right thing”, and he had said that they needed his manager’s approval before handing out the passwords, I wouldn’t see that as a felony either. If people weren’t able to access data to do their jobs, there is something wrong with that picture. So without knowing more of the story we can’t really say if what he did was right or wrong.

  • http://itmanagerdaily.com/network-admin-says-he-was-thrown-in-jail-for-doing-his-job/ kykoko

    Both! Childs was disgruntled because he was going to lose his job. He was also able to conveniently and justifiably use his role as a network admin to not just hand out the password to all in attendance.

  • http://www.SidKemp.com Sid Kemp

    We don’t have enough facts to know the truth, but it is rare for a jury to convict on criminal charges in error.

    The key issues are: Did the people at the meeting – the police representative and the HR staffer – have the authority to demand the passwords? If not, then, as a network admin, Childs did the right thing.

    But, at the same time, why was the City of San Francisco demanding that he turn over the keys to the network? Had he obtained his job by fraudulently hiding his convictions? Had he done something else illegal or against procedure. If Child’s motives were to serve the city all the way through, why did the meeting happen in the first place? What was the problem?

    The situation highlights the power that network administrators have – for good or ill. It is a mistake to underestimate the risks involved. The trust must be granted. Just as cops must carry guns, and security guards have all the keys, so network administrators have the power to lock or open our essential IT systems.

    Care is needed. Even trustworthy people do not always remain so. Most fraud occurs when a long-trusted employee falls on hard times.

    Clear communication free of bureaucratic hassle is needed as well. In this case, was it really right for an HR staffer to be at the meeting, instead of a senior HR executive? I would suggest that the situation wasn’t taken seriously enough – no matter what the reality was. The best way to manage this would be a senior city (or corporate) official personally takes charge of the situation to protect the city (or company) and also manage the HR situation.

  • Corey

    as i remember there was some strife between him and a new suprevisor. he didn’t trust the new supervisor, we was the lone ranger for the network, worked long unappreciated hours to fix it and build it and would be responsible for fixing it if someone broke it. Sounded a lot like: You owe me, i don’t trust you with the passwords, and the city spooked and got heavy handed. Sounded like there was plenty of blame to go around.

  • BS

    GMAB, if dude’s boss asks him for the passwords he should immediately provide them. End of story.

  • http://www.staleproperty.com keith

    I read this too when it first came out. This guy was also playing the power game that you do tend to get with mid and high level techies. I think sensationalising the story with the tag you have given it is unfortunate. He could have offered other solutions such as writing the passwords down and handing them to a known representative, he was a fool. As a techie you need to remember that you do not own the network, you only look after it. You have no right to hold your boss to ransom and you will be held accountable at the end of the day (perhaps not quite to the extreme of this case).

  • http://jdnash.com kubulai

    If the demand comes from a legitimate administrative superior, I simply give them the passwords. If they are interested, I will even show them or their designate how to use the passwords. They own their system. They have the right to run it or ruin it as they see fit. If I feel it is necessary, I always have the right to walk away to protect my reputation.

    I demand this right for myself as well as granting it to others. I do not grant alarm or telephone installers the right to keep the master passwords their secret if I bought the system. I expect this right for every device in every case from automobiles to cell phones. If I own it I have a right to total control contingent upon my accepting total responsibility.

    This same judgment should provide the passwords to every locked cell phone in this country so that the owner of the cell phone may unlock it and use it with whatever carrier he so desires.

  • Chris

    What really should have happaned in a situation like this (IMO) is Childs should have refused to hand over the passwords to HIS accounts when first asked but should have volunteered to create an Administrative level account with full access (including the right to disable his own account) for his boss when asked….and he should have made sure to get the request in writing.

    The cities role in this was incredibly dumb…if Childs had gotten hit by a bus one day, they would have been in the same exact mess but had no way out of it. Nor should they ever put anyone in a situation where they have to surrender their passwords… that’s bad practice as well. However, you do always want to make sure that more then one account has full access.

    What I generaly do is have one master account that is never used. The password for that is written on a slip of paper that sits in a safe/safety-deposit box that the CEO/COO designates control over. Then each trusted person has their own administrative accounts for doing their daily work… and I always insist that at least one other person has an Admin equivalent account to my own.

  • Robert Harker

    Terry Childs’s game was all about holding the city hostage. If he was concerned about the audience then he could have stated that and ask for an envelope to put the passwords into and sealed it. On his first day in jail he could have stated that he would only give it to a qualified co-worker. But no, he had to wait 5 days and then would only give it to the Mayor of San Francisco. Mayor Newsom is a great guy but I suspect he is not qualified to run the city’s network infrastructure.

    The “best practices” is a load of dung. Is it a best practice not to give anyone else the passwords to you network infrastructure? What if you got hit by a beer truck? Is it a best practice to not store some basic router configuration in the router’s non-volatile memory? Something thing would allow critical traffic to continue flowing? Is it a best practice to hide from all other employees the server used to download the current router configurations from? Remember it was not just the bosses he kept the information from, but *all* other employees. San Francisco would have been in a world of trouble if he had suddenly keeled over dead. If you are going to try the “best practices” argument then you have to follow a majority of them, not just the ones that you liked.

    I find the industry coming to his defense disgusting. He broke the law. He put the City of San Francisco’s network infrastructure in peril. He then grandstanded for over a week (a month maybe?) before he would release the password to a person that had no real relationship to the network other than being the mayor.

    I say throw the book at him.

  • Amanda Muir

    Password abuse runs rampant due to user’s lack of knowledge. Protecting the network is a duty to be upheld. I do hope that he was respectful and explained his situation. Sometimes it’s not what you say, but how you say it. IT folks are known for their lack of people skills as much as weak users are known for sharing passwords. Jail……seems like an excessive measure for lack of people skills and knowledge.

  • Brian

    He was requested, by his supervisor, to provide the passwords. He did not.
    I don’t care about the rest. It was insubordination.

    A simple daily T/FTP of the running and startup configs from each device could be collected and he could monitor any changes, and if necessary, undo the damage. If they lock you out, then you get to go back to the supervisor and have a valid complaint, and a reason for resetting the rest of the passwords.

  • Mark

    I’ve heard of what they tend to do with rogue netadmin’s in the big house, not pretty. I’m thinking Terry’s DS3 might soon be congested by a tatoo’d host masquerading as a netbot.

  • Gary

    Story stated that he blocked access to certain parts of the network. If this was as a result of a documented procedure for routine password changes, then he was following best practices, otherwise there appears to be intent to block data knowing that users would be unable to access it. When he as asked for the passwords, the question becomes who asked for them? Someone over his head… manager? It also becomes what passwords did they ask for? If, as a user, an admin changed my password I would expect them to provide me with my new password as soon as reasonably possible. So, if the people asking for the passwords were entitled to have them then he should have provided them, in a secure fashion, as soon as he could. However, without all the facts, what we have been told sounds like this was an intentional attempt to keep users out of the system which seems to fit the definition of hostage, (blackmail, etc.) so I’d be leaning strongly towards guilty. Somewhere along the chain of command he had to have a supervisor and if this person asked for this information and was also not provided it, then definitely guilty.

  • Gary

    At the very least, he is guilty of poor practices if he was the only one who knew the passwords and there was no documentation elsewhere with them. The old “get hit by a bus at lunch” arguement can then be used… if some accident happened to him then the entire network would have to been rebuilt from scratch.

  • Tony

    Net Admin? The guy was a CCIE.
    Secure Network? Cisco couldn’t get in when they were asked.
    Terry Gave the passwords to the mayor get them in (after stewing in jail for a while).

    There is a whole lot more to the story. Terry wasn’t very well liked, the perception was that he was a jerk, and worked for non-techies. An enviornment just waiting for a tabloid story like this. Who knows what all of the facts are? With a little digging I found these three nuggets.

    Need more data…

  • Bill

    I agree with Joseph (first commenter) there is not enough information about the City’s network policy. As a system administrator myself, password sharring is very dangerous in its self, are we talking about a Linux or Unix based network? No one but the Admin should have Roots password, the network Admin can generate user accounts with restricted levels of access. In my opinon the CEO or owner should have a master list of all critical logins and passwords to the network stored in a secure location, in case of a unforseen event. The City should have in place a network access structure and it should define what levels each user is authorized to access.

  • http://www.acsnj.org Erwin Stull

    There may very well be more to this story than whats stated on the surface. I would say that he was doing one of the tasks that his position calls for, and that is to protect the network. Let’s consider the suroundings. He is called into a room full of people, there is a conference call to who knows who, and he recognizes people at the meeting that don’t have the proper clearance for the information that he is requested to give. The initial thought that would come to my mind would be “what is this all about?, “who else is on this conference call”, “why are people here without the proper clearance for this information?”, etc.

    If he had released the passwords at that time, within a short period of time the entire system would have most likely required a complete rebuild, as you would have people accessing sensitive information that wouldn’t have any connection to the system.

    I believe that the proper thing to do would be for the person that he reports to to call him in the office for that information. Then let the responsibility of releasing that information fall on their head.

  • Paula

    First, there is clearly part of this story that is missing. No one has a policeman present on the 1st request for a list of passwords. That appears to have happened after other attempts were tried and failed.

    Second, regardless of there being other folks on the Conference call, This gent could have agreed to provide the list to the Head of HR. Thus shifting the responsibility of it’s possible distribution to HR. If he was concerned at all about liability to himself, he should have done it via mail / in writing with a disclaminer to protect himself.

    My guess is that the Jury came to the correct conclusion. This guy was using the password list as some kind of leverage. And was not acting in the best interest of the company.

    That said, the penalty is likely excessive. I’d suggest a lot of community service to make the point and perhaps expand his social skills.

  • People are stupid

    I find it amazing how quick people are to judging.

    Remember the riddle, man walks into bar, bartender holds a gun to his head and the man thanks the bartender and leaves. In this riddle the whole idea that the man had hiccups is left out and for you to figure out, but in a story like this there is no-one to fill in the untold segments of the story.

    The man was arrested, as dumb as the legal system is sometimes, I’m sure they had some just cause to convict him. We are told he withheld passwords, well in my profession I withhold pass-codes as well and people get really upset about it… but when it comes to the pass-codes I withhold, there has to be a payment arrangement made before I give access. Can they arrest me?… I’d like to see them try.

    Just try and call your internet supplier and ask them for your password… good luck… they can change them for you, but usually can not give them to you. And to even get to ask them you need to answer a list of personal questions. And in many instances they can only email the old or new password to the email address it is linked to.

    So did this man do something wrong, well obviously because he was convicted, was it for withholding a password?.. probably not completely. We can assume there was fraud involved, but we are not told. So lets just call the question bogus as we need more info.

  • Al C

    This smells all the way around. In this scenario, you grant Administrative access to the programs, applications, files, etc. to existing users. Avoid at all costs, using generic username/password combinations. By granting Admin access to existing users, any audit trail activities are preserved, responsibility and accountabilty for actions are appropriately delegated. I also NEVER keep or retain individual user password lists. I don’t need to know. No, I would not have released generic passwords over the phone that would have granted access to sensitive information. However, I would have granted Admin access to users if I were directed by Management to do so. If it means creating individual accounts for those people to audit their actions – so be it.

    Like many of the posts here, this seemed to be a power-play between the System Administrator and Management. Terry Childs lost because arrogance superceeded reason. Probably did not have a clear understanding of HOW to maintain network intergrity. “Best practices” claim as stated earlier was a lot of dung…

  • Sandy

    Maybe a second person should have also known the passwords. If the network admin had been killed in a car accident, how would the city of San Francisco have gotten them?

  • Mark C

    it was discovered that Childs had several criminal convictions before San Fransisco hired him……I’m guessing that wasn’t on his job application……I’d fire him for that and the password issue is then mute.

  • butter milk

    I believe that Childs was simply a large stick of butter in a frying pan. If you turn up the heat high enough you simply get hot butter, but if you first churn it in a large butter churning device then you will get hot butter milk. Childs is hot butter milk that has been churned in a large butter churning thing! He should sue the city of San Francisco and the American Dairy Association. Of course he could be a communist in which case the chance of even having butter is nominal.

  • Marsh

    Sandy you are absolutely correct… his boss should be seeking new employement too for allowing this situation to exist.

  • Dave

    *sigh* There is so much missing information here it is not funny.

    Did Terry Childs screw up by the numbers? Yes – no doubt about it. Terry did not cover his butt NEARLY enough. But is it worth jail time? I REALLY doubt it.

    Doing a little more digging, and a LOT more reading – there are three major factors that all led up to this, and several apparent errors in the reporting above.

    Factor 1: Terry Childs was a very talented and somewhat overworked Network Engineer.
    For five years – he had worked, tweaked, and modified systems to make the VERY complex Fibre/WAN backbone of the network hum like a top. He knew the systems like the back of his hand. Unfortunately – he was also pretty much solely responsible 24/7/365 for supporting the systems. Even more – he (and others) thought what he was doing worked out almost to be a technological work of art. (he had applied for patent or copyright on portions of the design).

    All professionals know there is a point where adjusting complex systems moves from simple knowledge to art. The smallest – apparently “harmless” -change can bring a delicately balanced system crashing to its knees. The “art” is knowing what “harmless” changes truly are “harmless” – and what the interactions are of the small things that make up the complex system.

    Factor 2: People rarely like true geeks – they tend to rub people the wrong way.
    In this case – Terry was considered to act a bit superior by some coworkers. Shortly before the password crisis, another tech said unsavory things about him. (Unsubstantiated accusations flew of inappropriate pictures, etc. Note that no charges were filed regarding these accusations) Unfortunately – this set up an atmosphere of distrust – which was exacerbated when Terry found out that the person making the accusations was also theoretically auditing or checking his network – without his knowledge (and – as far as HE could tell – insufficient experience or knowledge to properly check his work).

    Factor 3: HUGE HUGE HUGE Problems in policy and procedure – on BOTH sides of the fence.
    One – the policy as Terry claimed he knew – was the the master passwords were ONLY to be given to specfic individuals. The people who requested the password were NOT on the list. If that is correct – then Terry was indeed correct in refusing to divulge the passwords.

    Other policy and procedure issues pretty much spill from documentation – or lack thereof. Theoretically – the entire network should be documented, backups of key configuration files made, passwords stored sealed in a locked fireproof safe, etc – so that if something happened to Terry – his replacement could theoretically work things out. That is basic “disaster recovery 101″ type stuff – and it is obvious that Terry didn’t DO that.

    Am I claiming Terry was innocent? Heck no.

    He really, really, REALLY should have known better than to do what he did. And the lack of documentation and backup are totally his responsibility. But I will say that there is a LOT of the way this case was presented to the public and to the courts that is looking more like a smear campaign against Terry than anything else. A lot of basic network common prctices were presented to look malicious. (Oh NO! He has Modems that can connect to the routers! Well duh! How else will he be able to connect in to fix a problem when someone calls him up at 3am on a Sunday morning)

    The major error in the article above: as far as I can find – at no time did any employee “lose access” to anything. No systems went down while the passwords in NOT in the city’s possession. In fact – the only outages related with this case occurred AFTER he provided the passwords – when the city had to reset the various VPN passwords after they were revealed publically in court. So in a sense – he was right. Bad things DID happen after he gave them the passwords…

    Nor did he have access to any secured data he didn’t have a right and duty to know: he had passwords to the routers – but not the servers themselves. While passwords are “secured data” – as WAN administrator – he has to know the ones required to do his job.

    As a note: I am a System Administrator. Written policy for my office is that there is exactly one other person who I am ALLOWED to give any sort of administrative passwords to without a written request detailing who and why, signed by the office VP and the HR manager.

  • Greg

    As most posters have observed, it helps to have the facts before drawing conclusions. The San Francisco Examiner reported “Mayor Gavin Newsom was the only person to whom Childs would release the passwords. The mayor made a jailhouse visit to finally extract the sensitive information from Childs”.

    Sorry, but there are any number of people in the pecking order between a network admin and the mayor who have a legitimate right to demand – and get – system passwords. Childs’ refusal to give the password to his direct superior was a firing offense, in any company. In a government agency, where such refusal results in the effective sabotage of government infrastructure, it’s a crime.

  • David Schwartz

    Greg: Except that no government infrastructure was sabotaged.

    You have to choose: Do you want a world where people are expected to obey orders without question? or do you want a world where people use their brains and sometimes make mistakes?

  • http://www.softcon.us Travis Siegel

    I agree with others, that the full story isn’t known.
    I also state uncategorically though, that any compitent system admin, hacker, certified engenieer, or other it person who knows what they’re doing could have (after a bit of work) regained access to the network w/o the need to ask him for the passwords.
    There’s no reason for the city to go completely offline (as some claimed it did) for several days, when any half decent script kitty could have retrieved at least one account password in less than a day given standard cracking utilities.
    This whole thing was blown way out of proportion.
    The simple fact of the matter is:
    If there’s a password to get into something, there’s also a method of finding that password, with or without the permission of the person holding the passwords, and this was clearly a case where extraordinary measures would have been legitimately called for if the initial passwords were not retrieved in a reasonable amount of time.
    Google is your friend folks, (plus there’s companies that do this kind of thing as their normal every day jobs, hire one of them)
    (or another really good admin) Or for that matter, go to elcomsoft.com and buy a program to do the work for you.

    The pure insanity in this case is just rediculous, and there’s no reason for the network to have been locked out for several days as they claimed it was.
    Clearly a case of extreme lack of knowledge. on the city’s behalf here.

  • http://www.chaselaw.us Mike

    From a legal standpoint, the issue is one of property. The City of San Francisco owned the network, not Terry Childs. By denying the City access to their property, Terry was liable at both a civil and criminal level. Simple as that. Any reason which lead Terry not to comply was merely a mental safari into the absurd. Thus the maxim, “mess with the bull, get the horns!”.

  • Brad

    As a IT Manager and a former IT Administrator I can see both sides of the story, Childs should have given the passwords to the supervisor without question and then its the responsiblity of the manager of the department to distribute or not distribute. Childs obviously wanted to protect the network but he first has to trust his supervisor and the rest of the IT team that he/she would do the right thing also with sensitive information.